i fiddled with the apple/spoon painting on the advice of some artists forum friends, matt and I got haircuts!!! (its been awhile), i worked on my website. still need to clean my palette and set up a new still life and just haven't time to start on it 2day. so here's the final (really) apples and a spoon painting. don't know if you can see much difference, i improved the roundness of the red apple, and resolved the spoon a little more. i think it's working better.